There was an execution-style murder of a Houston deputy last week. Two days later: an off-duty officer in Abilene was found dead at his home. It was ruled a homicide. The next day, a Chicago officer was killed responding to a distress call. On walls in Houston there is graffiti of two emoji; on one side, the head of a police officer. On the other, a gun pointed at it.

Police and officials from New York to Houston have linked the death of Houston Deputy Darren Goforth to the Black Lives Matter protest movement focused on how police use lethal force against African-American citizens.

The County Sheriff of Milwaukee calls these recent events a “war on police.” And the Lieutenant Governor of Texas, Dan Patrick, agrees.

Patrick has issued a statement – and a longer Facebook post – calling these events a “morbid reality” for law enforcement officers.

“These are troubling times,” he tells Texas Standard. “When you see that type of graffiti  – when you see and hear the verbal attacks on the internet, on 24-hour cable news, that are vicious verbal attacks followed up by murderous attacks on police – we are at a very troubled time in our country.”

Patrick says there needs to be more positive mentions of police officers in the news and blames some media outlets for pitting sides of the story against each other.

“Your type of interview has to stop,” Patrick says. “Quit focusing on the small percentage of those in law enforcement who have made a mistake or have broken the law themselves.”

Read below for the full transcript of the conversation between Lt. Governor Dan Patrick and Texas Standard Host David Brown. This transcript has been edited for clarity. Assertions in this interview have not been independently confirmed.

Dan Patrick: “These are troubling times. When you see that type of graffiti  – when you see and hear the verbal attacks on the internet, on 24-hour cable news, that are vicious verbal attacks followed up by murderous attacks on police – we are at a very troubled time in our country.”

Texas Standard host, David Brown: The county sheriff of Milwaukee is calling this a ‘war on police.’ What do you say?

DP: “I think it is. When a police officer – whose main job is to protect us, the citizens – has to be worried about protecting himself first, that puts that police officer in harm’s way in a way they should not be. And I’m not talking about your type of crime where maybe they’re breaking up a holdup, there’s a robbery, there’s something where they would be expected to be in harm’s way. Now, they have to just worry about filling up the patrol car with gas without being killed. I mean, Officer Goforth was shot 15 times. That’s a hate crime in my view.

“I’m tired of this ‘certain lives matter.’ All lives do matter and particularly law enforcement. And there is a war on police, by some people. It’s a small percentage of people in this country, but they’re deadly. It only takes a few of that small group of people who spew this hate toward law enforcement to take the life on an innocent officer.”

TS: Your statement specifically refers to ‘open season on police.’ What do you mean?

DP: “Well some people, if you just look at the rhetoric – look at the march in Minnesota yesterday –”

TS: May I stop you there? You mentioned ‘just look at the rhetoric,’ but that’s different from an actual war on police. Words are words, right, I mean –”

DP: “Let me tell you what ‘war on police’ is, sir. That’s seven police officers killed in America in the month of August, and two already in September. That’s a war on police. Let’s not confuse rhetoric. Let’s not make this political speak. Let’s talk about it as it is: We have a thin blue line in this country and a thimble-full of men and women who offer themselves up to protect you and me, our families and our businesses. And at some point if this war on police continues you’re gonna find fewer and fewer men and women who are willing to do that job.

“When you lose your law enforcement that’s when our society breaks down totally. We need to put an end to this right now; the rhetoric against police. They’re not the enemy – the bad guys are the enemy. And if there are law officers who violate the law themselves or don’t do what they should, then they’ll be held accountable. But we’ve got to get back to the basics.

“How about when you see a law enforcement officer: ‘Yes sir, no sir. Yes ma’am, no ma’am.’ How about respect? If you expect respect. How about realizing the tremendous stress they are under 24/7 and at home. They are expected to be perfect in everything they do. Never make a mistake or they could be sued or they could be fired or they could be shot. Twenty-four-seven, 365, 20 years – if they live that long and have a career that long. But we’re gonna drive people out of this profession if it doesn’t stop.”

TS: Since you made your statement there has obviously been a major reaction online and some people pointing out – even people who don’t engage in reckless rhetoric – have said things like ‘Look, respect is earned.’ And after all we’ve seen on television all the Youtube videos that have contradicted official police accounts of incidents involving the use of police force, there’s a lot of skepticism out there. How do you convince those people?

DP: “You know, your type of interview has to stop. When I was asked to do an interview on NPR, I thought to myself ‘Do I really want to do this?’ They’re not in the police officers’ corner. And you’ve proven that by your interview.”

TS: How do you mean, sir?

DP: “You have to understand this: There are people in every profession who crossed the line and should be fired. Quit focussing on that small percentage of those in law enforcement who have made a mistake or who have broken the law itself. Focus on the men and women that you and your family depend on every day to protect your life.

“Look, the vast majority of our citizenry are law-abiding. You know – 100 percent of the crime is committed in estimate by about 15 percent of the population – there’s a small number of police officers. But that is the rhetoric about those officers. Trying to indicate that represents the majority of officers is what leads to the killing of officers… by some people who are led in that direction.”

TS: I don’t want to be misunderstood, because I hope you don’t think that I’m engaging in that rhetoric. One of the reasons that we wanted to invite you on is so you could talk about the issue of respect for law enforcement.

DP: “I did, but you wanted to turn it around. What about…what about… what about –”

TS: I want to make sure that people who were listening felt like their questions were being asked. And it’s certainly not something that I’m suggesting. I wanted to give you an opportunity to respond –

DP: “Let’s focus on law and order. Let’s focus on the vast majority of law enforcement officers who every day – and remember this, David – you don’t do this in your job, I don’t do this in my job – every day when they get up and go to work part of their job responsibility is to give their life for a citizen they don’t know. To save theirs if need be. No other profession requires that when you leave the house every morning.

“Let’s remember they’re mothers and fathers. They’re brothers. They’re dads, they’re sons they’re daughters. They have every day issues like everyone else. They’re under stress all of the time, expected to be perfect all of the time, and every time we have a law officer who’s killed or murdered in cold blood – like Officer Goforth was last week – well, what about that video? What about that officer? What about this?

“There are official ways to file complaints and do things and address those issues. They’re official channels to do that. But we have got to get away from this confrontational attitude with law enforcement. They are the thin blue line that protects society, they’re not the problem.”

TS: If I may follow up on something though – because I think you’re making several important points here. One of the things you seem to be suggesting, at the very least, is that media has a responsibility here and in fact is abrogating that responsibility.

DP: “I believe that 24-hour news cable stations – not all of them – are pitting people… they’re looking for the ratings, so that they find someone from one side to go against the other side for ratings. All that does is really turn into a lot of yelling at at each other or hate speech –”

TS: But how do we have a conversation about some of these?

DP: “Well, we can have a conversation about it, but let’s have a conversation and focus on the positives of law enforcement. Let’s focus on all those men and women who do a great job every day. Let’s focus on those seven officers who were killed in August and two in september already. Let’s not worry about the one officer or two officers out there on a Youtube dashcam video did something wrong. If they were wrong, I’ll file a complaint and if their department feels they were wrong then suspend them or fire them.

“These are special men and women and we only want the best. By the way, if this continues David, we’re gonna run some of the best and brightest who want to go into law enforcement. And we want the best and brightest. But people are going to start questioning ‘Is this what I want to do for a profession. That their spouses are gonna stay to their husbands and wives, ‘Do you really want to do this?’ Their kids are gonna say that. They’re gonna worry about their parents when they leave for work every day. Let’s focus on this problem. We can clean up the other issues and we should. No one wants anyone in any profession that is not under control or not held accountable. Let’s focus on the real issues.”

TS: We’re out of time, but I have to ask one more question if I may – as we talk about a war on police, are you concerned? You’ve been in the radio business, are you concerned that perhaps the rhetoric is also being ratcheted up on both sides, if you will? And we reach a point where we’re not talking and things to indeed get out of control?

DP: “I do talk radio. There are these internet radio stations that you know someone’s going in from their living room and hate speech on that look I’m a First Amendment guy. I believe in our Constitution. But when hate speech leads to violence, then we’ve gone too far. And that’s a difficult issue for us.

“We have a right to protest in this country and say what we will, but when I see the marchers in Minneapolis say ‘Pigs in the blanket, fry ‘em like bacon,’ if that’s what we want to allow in this country, or not question in this country, then we are in trouble indeed.”

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  • Brent B September 5, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    Just a scroll through the comments and you can see Dan has a point. Don’t pretend like this Jack Wagon didn’t go in there to illicit a tone or response from DP. Obama clearly has racheted up the rhetoric and affected behavior with his and his administration’s response to very specific shootings. All black and always when there is a chance of civil disobedience turning to violence. He needs it. You guys need to get out of the echo chamber. Just because DP is an ass doesn’t mean he isn’t speaking truth. Your horse has done more harm to the people you want justice for with his racists rhetoric than DP being pro-cop ever will.

  • Brad September 4, 2015 at 6:11 am

    Lt Gov. Dan Patrick owes NPR, The Texas Standard and all NPR listeners an apology. How dare he just assume anything about NPR and it’s listeners. We listen to NPR in order to hear all sides. Lt. Gov Patrick seems to be unable to see that civilian lives are equal to police lives. Follow all the grand jury decisions in
    Texas when there is an officer involved shooting. Rarely has the police officer been brought up on charges. I fully disagree with ever harming a police officer for any reason. At the same time, I do understand the frustration that many people feel when trying to seek justice from the police department. Gov Dan Patrick’s attitude did little to help with this very serious problem.

  • Brooks Egerton (@brooksegerton) September 4, 2015 at 6:07 am

    ‘Your type of interview has to stop,’ @DanPatrickTX tells @TexasStandard http://t.co/j3ccnlUgVN

  • Paul Ingmundson September 3, 2015 at 10:53 pm

    Dan Patrick says: ” Let’s not worry about the one officer or two officers out there on a Youtube dashcam video did something wrong. If they were wrong, I’ll file a complaint and if their department feels they were wrong then suspend them or fire them.” Really? Let’s not worry? Is this your answer to Sandra Bland’s family?

  • Philmaverick September 3, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    “If there are law officers who violate the law themselves or don’t do what they should, then they’ll be held accountable” the Lt. Gov. says. I appreciate the irony that also today the Cameron County District Attorney presentation to a grand jury resulted in no charges for officer Rolando Trujillo Jr for his firing – from the side of the truck – four times into the drivers window, killing the driver who was attempting to flee a traffic stop. Yes, a person should not drive away from a traffic stop, but I also think a police officer, in no danger, should not be able to kill without consequence a person who does attempt to drive away.

    • Joe September 4, 2015 at 10:07 am

      Sure they will. Just like all the other dirty cops were held accountable. The solution is simple. It has been complicated be police have not been held accountable. There is not a war on police. No law abiding black American have a problem with unbiased policing. Quit trying to make the .marchers the problem. The problem is people like you do not do their job. You would have gotten the respect of all Texas citizens other than the racist rednecks that you chose to appeal to if you had set up a process to identify and get rid of the bad cops that you admit are out there. You are part of the problem.

  • Cody Yarborough September 3, 2015 at 8:44 pm

    Frustrations on the street are boiling into criminal activity. The officer’s death was teagic, but we need to have a conversation why. Our Lt. Governor just wants us to shut up and pay our respects. More government in (in)action.

  • Bk September 3, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    The interviewer should turn in his J card. Dan Patrick “poisons the well” and the questions there after are just apologies. You do know that there are communities (outside of Dan Patrick’s constituency) that don’t trust that poor thin blue line.

  • Luc Novovitch (@novopix) September 3, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    @TexasStandard @traviswesttx Because media are not supposed to report facts, just take sides? Same old twist: you’re with us or against us.

  • Joe Higgs (@JoeHiggs1) September 3, 2015 at 5:49 pm

    @TexasStandard fascinating interview with @DanPatrick. Brown was incredibly professional dealing with the Lt. Gov’s abrasiveness

  • Cody September 3, 2015 at 4:28 pm

    I was dissapointment that the reporter was so easily cowed by Patrick’s tactics. I listen to the BBC and they seem to have far more metalk and less deference fir politicians.

    • Anonymous September 8, 2015 at 10:52 am

      I agree. The interviewer allowed himself to be bullied and take the defensive. That’s not the standard of journalism expected from NPR.

  • JustinBailey September 3, 2015 at 4:02 pm

    Who started the war? I don’t see citizens harassing the police, planting evidence, making heavy handed laws to take rights away. It’s not a war on police that’s going on. It’s a war on corruption. Don’t hide behind thinly veiled attacks on a citizenry who have had enough abuse. What happened to these officers wasn’t right or just, but it is a reflection of what US citizens have been putting up with for too long.

  • Jacob Kerr (@jacobrkerr) September 3, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick criticizes media coverage of police shootings: http://t.co/vhfo3orqbi via @TexasStandard

  • Chris (@holeintherug) September 3, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    No matter what side of the argument you fall on, LtGov Patrick was an ass in his @TexasStandard interview.

    • Tom Riddle September 4, 2015 at 6:48 am

      Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick owes David Brown an apology for his unprovoked and unwarranted attack on Mr. Brown during his interview yesterday on the Texas Standard: “Your type of interview has to stop.” Mr. Brown handled this in a very professional manner.

  • Gottfried September 3, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    Patrick gave me the impression he prepared for this interview by reading a note card ten minutes beforehand, only dig his heels in his own insecurity about the view that he had chosen by trying to dominate the conversation with a regurgitated rhetoric which probably came from some fundraiser five years ago. Thanks a lot for wasting our time with garbage – you have illustrated the worst qualities of an elected official.

  • The Ashton September 3, 2015 at 12:53 pm

    Dear Dan, your response to the allegations against the police is the same tired response that causes the rhetoric you hear. Honestly investigate and stop protecting murderers because they wear a badge. If the bad police are a minority and shouldnt be upbraided, then cop killers by percentage are negligible and shouldn’t be magnified. Good police don’t protect bad police.

  • Faisal Ali September 3, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    “certain lives matter”? Does it hurt him that much to say the word BLACK?

  • Señor Galaxy (@JacGalaxy) September 3, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    @TexasStandard @DanPatrickTX the #blacklivesmatter movement has never been about hate. Address the actual problem!!!!

  • greg-n-houston September 3, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    patrick’s pitbull out of the gate pounce on a texas standard journalist is inappropriate behavior by an elected official. nothing thoughtful or respectful displayed by our lieutenant governor. once again, i am embarrassed by an official elected in the state i truly love.

  • pretzel wurst (@r0ch6) September 3, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    @TexasStandard what a complete waste of airwaves to have Lt. Gov. Patrick on. He’s more interested in pandering than solving problems.

  • Denise Ehrlich (@DeniseEhrlich) September 3, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    Great job @TexasStandard staying on @DanPatrick with your questions. He is not helping bridge the divide.

  • Craig September 3, 2015 at 12:22 pm

    Wow–just come on in with a HUGE chip on your shoulder, Dan! Let’s blame the media, especially the well-spoken and reasonable David Brown. One of the most absurd attacks I’ve ever seen.

  • Zack (@_ZD) September 3, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    Listening to the @TexasStandard get walked all over by @DanPatrick. Called you out on the air…. You have to be better nn@houpublicradio

  • Alex Tarr (@avatarr8) September 3, 2015 at 12:19 pm

    Really impressed with the @TexasStandard interview with Dan Patrick. Way to cut through the "law and order" rhetoric and ask real questions!

  • Traci Patterson (@xwp615) September 3, 2015 at 12:16 pm

    @TexasStandard apparently you aren’t allowed to question LTG Patrick. Just be a ditto head or you become part of the problem, in his mind.

  • Marjorie Wells (@MarjorieLynnWe3) September 3, 2015 at 12:13 pm

    @TexasStandard @DanPatrick nWhat happened to protect and serve ? Now it’s Intimate and shoot ! #JusticeForBikers

  • Joe September 3, 2015 at 11:49 am

    “Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency of the certainty of corruption by authority.”

  • cc September 3, 2015 at 11:37 am

    What a buffoon. This moron wants us all to live in a police state where we are not allowed to criticize the police we pay to keep us safe when they do wrong. This is how totalitarian regimes operate Dan, NOT America.

    • shari September 3, 2015 at 3:21 pm

      Could not have said it better

  • CShep (@Iamneauxjoke) September 3, 2015 at 11:34 am

    @TexasStandard wiil Lt. Gov acknowledge that cops are being shot by sick people while recklessness of "rational" officers is less serious?

  • CShep (@Iamneauxjoke) September 3, 2015 at 11:24 am

    @TexasStandard does the Lt. Gov. mean RESPECT, or relegating reverence for white authority?

  • Melissa September 3, 2015 at 11:06 am

    The Lt. Governor’s statements are unhelpful and fuel entrench mentioned rather. The killing of the police officer is reprehensible but blaming it critics of systematic problems in law enforcement is illogical and fuels resentment. He claims that legitimate problems with bad actors in law can be solved through official means but as we seen many cases in Texas where the mere filing if complaints is insufficient for their proper investigation. Long standing issues with abuse of civil forfeiture, false information in Police statements, questionable uses of force and the failure of the Texas government to enforce fair checks and balances has damaged the public trust.

    There have been three officer deaths in the last week and that is a tragedy. There have also been 10 people killed by police in the last week and that is also a tragedy. Past false statements means it is harder to trust that these killing were necessary or justified. The thin blue line mentality has encouraged officers to overuse force, discouraged district attorneys from through examination of officer abuses and created a climate of us vs them against the very community they are supposed to be working with. Claiming the blame is one sided only causes further entrenchment. Law enforcement, the Texas government and communities need to work together to reestablish checks and balances for respect to be reestablished.

    • Philmaverick September 3, 2015 at 9:03 pm

      Excellent summary of issues with the force of police and the acquiescence of the prosecutors and courts to hold the police accountable for abuse, or even to adequately review questionable actions.

  • Shane Blackshear (@beardonabike) September 3, 2015 at 10:58 am

    Heartbroken over the disturbing & shameful rhetoric by @DanPatrick on @TexasStandard this morning. Praying for the powerless today.

  • Brice September 3, 2015 at 10:56 am

    People who choose to become police officers make a conscious decision to risk their lives. But it seems that police today are more likely to shoot rather than take the risk they accepted when they decided to become a police officer.

  • Robert September 3, 2015 at 10:55 am

    Dan Patrick: Another “Adios, mofo” example of how elected officials sworn to serve the people see themselves as above the people. Adversarial, condescending, duplicitous arrogance towards anyone who questions, attempts to clarify their position or perspective.

  • cayala (@cowboycarlos) September 3, 2015 at 10:52 am

    @WellsDunbar @TexasStandard @DavidBrownKUT @DanPatrick Yep!Didn’t miss same old extreme rhetoric form Lt. Gov. He’s wrong ambassador 4 issue

  • Guppy (@sdguppy) September 3, 2015 at 10:52 am
  • West September 3, 2015 at 10:44 am

    I’ve always found David Brown to be rational, reasonable and respectful and couldn’t fathom what set Dan Patrick off.

    “Your type of interview”????? Just imagine what Patrick’s reaction would have been to truly being drilled and grilled on this issue. I commend Brown for standing his ground while remaining calm and professional. It could have been far worse for you, Lt. Gov.

    • Anonymous September 3, 2015 at 12:44 pm

      I thought David was very professional in the face of such utter stupidity.

  • Jimmie September 3, 2015 at 10:34 am

    Can you imagine Dan Patrick as a cop!
    He’s got the bully attitude going on really well. Because of cell phone videos America is getting to see just how many cops abuse their authority. This is why so many people are getting upset and are speaking up about their actions. Think about before cell phones and body cams…I am sure the abuse of power was off the charts. Protect and Serve! Uh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • keeque September 3, 2015 at 10:42 am

      Exactly. Let’s not focus on the lives of a small percentage of people who died at the hands of police on video, BUT ALL LIVES MATTER!!

  • Susan September 3, 2015 at 10:33 am

    Not diminishing the tragic loss of life, but isn’t there an inherent danger in becoming a cop? Maybe the murderers were criminals in the first place. Black Lives Matter protest law abiding citizens being injured or harass because of race. They do not want special treatment of criminals.

  • Jennifer Thomas September 3, 2015 at 10:32 am

    The interview with Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick has left me speechless…I’ve been on NPR for at least 10 years and never made a comment until now. Wow. As a future criminal justice professional, I don’t think he made the situation any better with his comments. I commend David for his professionalism in handling his interviewee’s rudeness.

  • Ed Lagniappe September 3, 2015 at 10:28 am

    What a defensive response by Dan Patrick. Great to say we should praise the good cops. But if the good cops don’t turn in the bad cops, that makes them complicit in the bad acts of bad cops. As to the guy in San Antonio w/ his hands up who was killed by cops. They’d already failed to taser him? What the hell was the justification for either a taser or a gun? I don’t care IF he had a knife in his hand, he was absolutely NO THREAT to 2 cops 20 ft away w/ guns. He wasn’t moving towards them, he wasn’t fleeing, he wasn’t acting in a threatening manner. And backup cops arrived within 20-30 seconds? My Grandmother could’ve controlled the situation w/ her purse.
    Dan Patrick is in denial. Cops are outta control. They are the OTHER colors-wearing gang, carrying guns, to whom the public pays protection money, and then they still do whatever the hell they want to the public because they know they are untouchable. We’d do as well taking annual bids from all the gangs as to who’ll get the city contract to uphold the “law”. I’ve personally been offered a new refrigerator & plasma TV by a cop who’d taken it off the loading dock from an appliance store (as a protection payment by that store to him).
    I was raised to respect cops, but cops have taught me over 60 years that they don’t deserve it (& I’m one of the lucky anglos they don’t target).

    • Anonymous September 3, 2015 at 12:39 pm

      Fantastically written, excellent points. Great read. Thank you!!!

  • cayala (@cowboycarlos) September 3, 2015 at 10:28 am

    @TexasStandard Lt Gov’s wrong diplomat for current crisis.

  • Sastrei (@Sastrei87) September 3, 2015 at 10:27 am

    @TexasStandard does Dan Patrick consider Fox News an offender of the 24 hour cycle too!? I bet he doesn’t!

  • Guppy (@sdguppy) September 3, 2015 at 10:26 am

    @TexasStandard Thank you for trying re:LtGov, I’m not surprised he accused you of being against the police, did anyone expect something else

  • John September 3, 2015 at 10:26 am

    Looks like the AG is getting on dangerously thin ice. There’s a “war” but he won’t say who the commander in chief is or who finances it. It’s “Some people” He needs to come up with specifics. War is irganized, not frandom individuals deciding to act on their own. Looks like demagogic dog-whistle politics. The media is being hostile for reporting what’s going on? Are they refusing to report attacks on police. There’s an enemy he own’t specifically identify and the media should censor themselves. Did his advisors tell him to come out strong with some issues to detract from his own legal problems?

  • Ken September 3, 2015 at 10:24 am

    The belief among conservatives that NPR is the enemy is amazingly ignorant. Kudos to David Brown for his calm and reasoned responses to an angry and narrow minded Dan Patrick.

    • keeque September 3, 2015 at 10:29 am

      AGREED. He was totally out of line and his rage was a pathetic superficial showcase of how much conservatives have absolutely NO care for “all lives” except the ones included in their hateful rhetoric.

  • cayala (@cowboycarlos) September 3, 2015 at 10:23 am

    @TexasStandard Very poor performance by Lt. Gov.

  • ernesto camero (@CameroErnesto) September 3, 2015 at 10:23 am

    @TexasStandard Lt. Gov. Unprofessional, dime-a-dozen rhetoric, no plan for misunderstood events

  • Marjorie Wells (@MarjorieLynnWe3) September 3, 2015 at 10:22 am

    @TexasStandardnIt’s killing me to have to wait till 1 to listen.I bet Puppet doesn’t mention how the Waco PD killed bikers#JusticeForBikers

  • Guppy (@sdguppy) September 3, 2015 at 10:22 am

    I just heard @DanPatrick tell @TexasStandard that we should only focus on police killed and NOT on innocents killed by police. Wow @deray

  • KeeQue September 3, 2015 at 10:19 am

    wow, how asinine can Dan Patrick get? All lives matter? What about the lives of the working poor and the starving children who, every day in this state don’t matter to him? How about the lives of the people wrongfully accused on death row? What about the lives RUINED of all the minorities in prison for minor drug offenses? Get over yourself, Mr. Megalomaniac Patrick. You don’t speak for the majority of Texans. The Prison industrial complex must be changed and law enforcement is at the front lines of enforcing your hateful rhetoric.

    • Jennifer Thomas September 3, 2015 at 10:34 am

      Ahhh! That all lives matter comment really got me! 🙁

  • Ken September 3, 2015 at 10:19 am

    I was ashamed of Dan Patrick’s response to the discussion and questions about this terrible problem. He thinks a rational discussion and a look at the concerns of all citizens is wrong. Well, he is quite wrong. I agree that police officers deserve respect for thier difficult and dangerous job, but if things aren’t going well, we need to look at all aspects of the problem. There is a race war as well as a war between the haves and have-nots that has deep roots in our history. There are no easy fixes. A police state where the police are always right no matter what is what Patrick wants, and he is so wrong.

  • Jocelyn Tovar (@JocelynTovar_) September 3, 2015 at 10:14 am

    Wow @DanPatrick on @TexasStandard saying @NPR’s not on the side of law enforcement officers.

  • Susan Crippin (@smcrippin) September 3, 2015 at 10:14 am

    @TexasStandard do not stop being a journalist just because your guest doesn’t like the question you asked.

  • Rachel Pearson (@HumanitiesMD) September 3, 2015 at 10:12 am

    @DanPatrick on @TexasStandard: #DarrenGoforth murder a hate crime. Troubling. TX lt. gov doesn’t know the definition https://t.co/SkZH3quoxG

  • Michael Guevara (@wonk_ink) September 3, 2015 at 10:12 am

    @TexasStandard Dan Patrick is the one guilty of harmful rhetoric.

  • Chris Leeds September 3, 2015 at 9:58 am

    The Honorable Dan Patrick does a good job remembering and reminding us about the obligations and oath our police take when they become officers, but he’s either forgotten or ignores his own — to faithfully to the best of my ability preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution and laws
    of the United States and of this State . . . so help me God.
    Patrick only incites anger and more resentment.

  • Candace September 3, 2015 at 9:56 am

    I was surprised at Dan Patrick’s strong response decrying the focus on police overreaction when talking about the recent deaths of innocent policemen. However, though this program is better than most on NPR there is a tendency for a snarky, self satisfied sneer at people who are not so politically correct. This is a very good program … just be careful to be respectful of citizens with other viewpoints.

  • Allen September 3, 2015 at 9:48 am

    Dan Patrick: making reporters journalist. Good job David Brown.

  • Dr. & Mrs. Rody P. Cox September 3, 2015 at 9:46 am

    We couldn’t agree more with Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick. What the police do and the value they have in society should be respected.

    • Joe September 4, 2015 at 1:39 pm

      No one is saying that the police should not be respected if they earn it and at this point in time, from where this 60 year old black man sit, it has not been earned. Get out of you tiny world and look at the whole picture before it is too late. One would think a doctor would have a brain.

  • Jim September 3, 2015 at 9:45 am

    Lt. Gov. Patrick asserts that there is a war on police. He is mistaken. There is a camera on the police, almost everywhere. If this causes violent individuals to turn away from careers in law enforcement. We now know what is to be seen when we watch the watchers, and it is troubling violence by the police.

    • Anonymous September 3, 2015 at 10:13 am

      Exactly. and the reason they wear cameras is because of public distrust. Let’s restore the trust.

    • Brian September 3, 2015 at 10:19 am

      Right on

  • Chris September 3, 2015 at 9:42 am

    Lt Gov Patrick came in to that interview with his hackles up! He implied that NPR/Tx Standard isn’t sympathetic to our police force! That’s crazy. I’ve never heard disrespect for our law enforcement from NPR, only a genuine research on the very sad, complex issues at hand. Texas Standard: you handled that with grace.

  • CShep (@Iamneauxjoke) September 3, 2015 at 9:42 am

    @TexasStandard wait, shouldn’t my elected Lt. Gov present as being relatively sensitive to reasonable issues that affect me? Whorepresentsme

  • AE September 3, 2015 at 9:41 am

    The problem he’s ignoring is that there is a pattern of protectionism in police forces. I get wanting to defend your friends and colleagues, but it goes too far when people aren’t held properly accountable for their actions. Each time a person is avoidably injured or killed and little or no action is taken to correct the errors in staffing, behavior or procedure that lead to these incidents it erodes the respect that the public as a whole has for people in law enforcement. I’ve known many “good cops” in my life and have tremendous respect for those individuals and I pray for their safety. Every time a “bad cop” escapes the consequences of their actions, it increases the danger for everyone, citizen and officer alike.

  • CShep (@Iamneauxjoke) September 3, 2015 at 9:39 am

    @TexasStandard Lt. Gov can’t speak to officers being shot without belittling the issue of black lives mattering.

  • Steve September 3, 2015 at 9:39 am

    Patrick says “Lets focus on all the good officers”. Step one in any public relations clean up, deflect, deflect, deflect. Move the conversation off the true topic. We need a LT Gov who wants to fix the problem, not the same old stance of sweeping it under the rug.

    • shari September 3, 2015 at 3:19 pm

      Amen!!!!!

  • James September 3, 2015 at 9:38 am

    If in fact this is not an unfortunate, coincidence of events or copycat crimes associated with the loss of the officers, and in fact it is a war on police officers then this is reminiscent of the Vietnam war in which the soldiers were harassed by general society when the anger should have been directed at policy. I agree with Lt. Govenor Patricks’ comments that the individual officer should not overshadow the law abiding officers that represent the majority. However, the public should have more oversight in how policy is developed by federal, state, and local law enforcement.

  • Theresa September 3, 2015 at 9:36 am

    Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick is 110% correct. Police are paid peanuts to take jobs we would not give to our military personnel, fully in combative armor. Why do so many only give respect to a dead officer?? Let’s show support to all who put their lives on the line each and every day.

  • Doug September 3, 2015 at 9:34 am

    Lt. Governor Patrick seems to want to avoid having an intelligent conversation about the aggression against police officers. This aggression is definitely a problem but it won’t go away until we can discuss the where/how it started and resolve those problems. Patrick’s position indicates that nothing is going to change.

  • SandisonMontgomery (@rsmbrooklyn) September 3, 2015 at 9:31 am

    @TexasStandard By his logic, police began a war with civilians. No innocent person should be murdered, badge or no

  • Drew September 3, 2015 at 9:31 am

    LT. Gov Dan Patrick is unbelievable narrow minded. It has been made very clear that all lives matter as implied by the black lives matter movement. The movement stresses the unjust, excessive and extreme violence on black Americans that is now being pushed into broad public knowledge, it didn’t just start happening, it been happening. It is tragic when life is lost due to violence but the recent loss of police lives doesn’t not mean the lack of value placed on black lives has somehow changed, it has become worse and is worse by statements like “all lives matter.” Suggesting activists should go home, sit down, be quite, and accept the way things are is unconscionable and frankly racist. Whether or not it matters I am white, and my heart goes out to all who have lost someone as our society works toward a more fair America for all of its citizens.

  • BrianClifford (@BrianClifford) September 3, 2015 at 9:30 am

    @TexasStandard "Stop talking about police officers killing minorities" – LtGov Dan Patrick, I literally heard this on the radio this morning

  • Lisa September 3, 2015 at 9:29 am

    Mr. Patrick seems to have a fundamental misunderstanding about what is news. It is not news when police do their jobs correctly. It is news when they misuse their power.

  • Brian September 3, 2015 at 9:29 am

    Dan Patrick crocodile tears over diminished police recruiting. NRA says we don’t need police. They might be right! There’s a bumper sticker on a vehicle that belongs to one oft employees. It say “I don’t call 911”.

    As for Patrick’s rage against the media? He may need another med adjustment.

  • Gerald (Gee) Jones (@I_PLAY_LP) September 3, 2015 at 9:27 am

    @TexasStandard it’s obvious who endorses the LtGov and who he wants to silence but how about citizen’s rights, LtGov? You sound like a child

  • Heather (@DallasHeatherM) September 3, 2015 at 9:27 am

    @danpatrick Sir, your opportunity with a friendly open host & a new audience with @davidbrownKUT on @TexasStandard wasn’t utilized

  • Madeline Detelich (@Maddyscience) September 3, 2015 at 9:26 am

    @DavidBrownKUT @TexasStandard seems like Dan doesn’t understand that journalism involves asking tough questions. Thanks for asking them!

  • Kerry Mosser (@kerrymosser) September 3, 2015 at 9:26 am

    @TexasStandard if the Lt. Gov thinks NPR is the problem, then he’s lost the discussion. When cops make mistakes, they cost civilian lives.

  • Donkey Kong (@Janaelle5) September 3, 2015 at 9:25 am

    @Pantysnawad @TexasStandard ‘The media’ always has a corner these days. That’s why I get my news from twitter

  • Steven Maines (@steven_maines) September 3, 2015 at 9:25 am

    @DanPatrick You seemed very defensive in the interview with @TexasStandard

  • Blue Heron Farm (@BlueHeronFarmTX) September 3, 2015 at 9:25 am

    @TexasStandard Also,TS, please note that Patrick et al. have not "linked" these shootings to BLM. They have INCORRECTLY TRIED to.

  • Madeline Detelich (@Maddyscience) September 3, 2015 at 9:25 am

    @DavidBrownKUT @TexasStandard I thought you did a wonderful job. I don’t know if I could have kept my cool nearly as well.

  • Jesse (@jdgarcia545) September 3, 2015 at 9:25 am

    @TexasStandard, @DanPatrick he said it himself. Censor the media and brush the problem,that plagues our law enforcement away. Comply or die

  • Ben Wright September 3, 2015 at 9:25 am

    Lite Guv: “The focus should be on the many cops who do a great job, not on the few who committee gross injustices.” [paraphrase] I wish the Lite Guv would apply the same logic to immigrants, single mothers and people on welfare.

  • Aaron Little (@AaronAdjective) September 3, 2015 at 9:25 am

    @TexasStandard Lt. Gov. Patrick seemed to misdirect his rage toward the Standard. I wish he would have not played the repub on NPR card.

  • kae September 3, 2015 at 9:25 am

    Thumbs down button. And then he tries to tell the reporter what to say? And what questions to ask? Who is that reporter who caved to dan patrick….. he should have stood firm and ssked his tough questions. Im too upset to type

  • SandisonMontgomery (@rsmbrooklyn) September 3, 2015 at 9:25 am

    @TexasStandard why dont we call it "a war on civilians" when police kill innocents without consequences?

  • SandisonMontgomery (@rsmbrooklyn) September 3, 2015 at 9:24 am

    @TexasStandard the police should support the black lives matter movement! their fight against it is a part of the problem

  • AsYouWere (@_As_You_Were_) September 3, 2015 at 9:23 am

    @TexasStandard Lt. Gov Dan Patrick shows his character by accusing hosts/callers 4 Attacking him. He’s not able 2 debate since TXGOP doesn’t

  • curglaff (@curglaff) September 3, 2015 at 9:23 am

    @TexasStandard does @DanPatrick not see the irony in complaining about rhetoric while calling it a "war on police"?

  • Ron Coldiron September 3, 2015 at 9:22 am

    War on Police? It’s easy to blame those voicing outrage against the Police for a handful of individuals attacking Police. I’ve heard no one voice the other half of this story that is oh, so evident. The NRA blocks any and all efforts to limit access to powerful weapons. If any one imbalanced soul decides to attack a Police Officer, there’s no significant obstacle to quick, effective firepower. A thousand people in the street did not help that ‘lone gunman’ plot and plan an attack; the NRA paved the way for him to access any easy weapon.

  • Joyce Jackson (@OldATXMonster) September 3, 2015 at 9:22 am

    @TexasStandard @DanPatrick can’t have convo or problem-solve focused only on "positives." Public has a right to question public servants.

  • Stephon Robinson (@StephonRobinson) September 3, 2015 at 9:22 am

    @TexasStandard @DanPatrickTX …Say "somepeople" we know what you mean. You have to give respect to get it. Deal with it!

  • Stanton (@stantonmc) September 3, 2015 at 9:22 am

    @TexasStandard That was not an interview. That was a platform for rhetoric. nA lack of control and an APOLOGY from the interviewer?!nWeak.

  • Blue Heron Farm (@BlueHeronFarmTX) September 3, 2015 at 9:22 am

    @TexasStandard Shorter version: Be upset about the few people killing police. Do not be upset about innocent people being killed by police.

  • Proud DemoCat (@luigibleu) September 3, 2015 at 9:21 am

    @DeniseRozier @TexasStandard @DanPatrick As long as the police circle the wagons to protect the few evil-doing cops, they deserve no respect

  • kae September 3, 2015 at 9:21 am

    Why did u even a ir this interview. As a black law enforcement officer i cringed listening to this interview. I truly became irate in my car. Lt gov dan patrick made it seem that all black ppl are committing crimes. Yes im a law enforcement officer. But in black first. Im am disgusted at everything he said. Black lives matter. And im sorry that mr goforth lost his life but so have many unarmed black men and women. The nerve and the gall of his to even fix his mouth to say all the garbage he spewed out. Im done with this crap

    • Wells Dunbar September 3, 2015 at 10:30 am

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  • Dr David R. Brockman (@drdrbrockman) September 3, 2015 at 9:21 am

    @DanPatrick didn’t do himself or LEOs any favors with his rant on @TexasStandard today. Attacking media won’t stop violence against LEOs.

  • Denise (@DeniseRozier) September 3, 2015 at 9:20 am

    I think Texas needs to again lead the way with no tolerance with violence against police @TexasStandard @DanPatrick

  • Bobby Cervantes (@BobbyCervantes) September 3, 2015 at 9:20 am

    .@TexasStandard goes to SA cop shooting & Arlington cop who shot high school student, right after @DanPatrick interview. #txlege

  • Patricia September 3, 2015 at 9:18 am

    This conversation is infuriating! The lt. Gov. says let’s not worry about those few…? Those few cold blooded killer cops?? HOW MANY police who have killed in cold blood ARE NOW IN JAIL?? From what I have gathered. None.

  • Eduardo Alarcon September 3, 2015 at 9:17 am

    Dan Patrick says that it’s only one or two police officers that are rotten. What he forgets is that the officers around those rotten apples are tainted and rotten as well. Case in point when other police on scene outright lie to support the police shooter. Or even mundane situations where the “Internal Affairs” rarely find that a fellow police officer was in the wrong. Only by having a truly independent “Internal Affairs” that only reports to the City Council can any sense of integrity be expected by the Police

  • Paul Wells September 3, 2015 at 9:16 am

    Lt. Governor Dan Patrick was disappointing. His defensive interview contributes directly to the problem.

    • shari white September 3, 2015 at 9:33 am

      Absolutely part of the problem. He’s got no compassion for the families of those victimized by police brutality. Nobody expects police officers to be “perfect”, but killing and beating unarmed citizens is not only illegal and immoral, but is far from a petty mistake. “dont worry about the couple of policemen you see in a YouTube video”? Is he serious? Does he mean the numerous officers caught on video shooting unarmed citizens in the back or head? I can’t believe this man is am elected official. He should be ashamed of himself – I am ashamed and disgusted by his words today.

  • Nicky September 3, 2015 at 9:15 am

    Please ask Lt. Gov. Patrick if he is not also basing his stance on a narrow group of people who are engaging in violence. A few people justify a “war” in his eyes, but is not acknowledging the few officers abusing their power. What’s good for the goose…

  • Ryan September 3, 2015 at 9:14 am

    Why then don’t we call it a war on black people when the police have killed black people without consequences?

    • Gabriel September 3, 2015 at 9:22 am

      Police aren’t indiscriminately killing blacks. In all those recent past events who has created those situations? You don’t see police killing blacks while their filling up their cars.

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